Nikoi and Cempedak Non-public Islands CEO, Andrew Dixon and Cottar’s Safaris CEO Louise Cottar have swapped locations in a novel ‘CEO trade’ program delving into one another’s operations, groups and visitor experiences. In an unique Q&A, they each share their experiences.
The trade was designed as a hands-on management and operational studying train, with each CEOs taking insights again to their very own companies round sustainability, staffing, visitor expertise, neighborhood engagement and distant luxurious hospitality operations.
Right here Australian CEO of Nikoi and Cempedak Non-public Islands in Indonesia, Andrew Dixon and CEO of Cottar’s Safaris in Kenya Louise Cottar share their key takeaways.
What was the most important factor that shocked you within the first week of your month-long CEO trade?
Andrew Dixon: Two issues instantly stood out.
First, how shortly sturdy groups open up if you’re clear you’re there to hear and study moderately than decide or change issues. Lengthy conversations with heads of division shortly established belief and gave me a a lot deeper understanding of the enterprise.
Second, the sheer depth of the safari visitor journey in contrast with our island escapes. Many company view a Maasai Mara safari as a once-in-a-lifetime expertise, so the tempo and expectations from 5 a.m. by way of to night are remarkably totally different. It strengthened how a lot operations are formed by visitor motivations and context.
What hit me most, although, was how a lot belief the method required. Hospitality companies are deeply private. You’re successfully handing somebody the keys to your corporation, your folks and your decision-making processes. That stage of openness is uncommon, and finally one of many causes the trade was so precious.
Louise Cottar: The size of the similarities – and the way shortly they revealed themselves. Coming from the huge open plains of the Maasai Mara, I anticipated Nikoi and Cempedak to really feel completely international: a reef and marine island world, as removed from the savannah because it’s potential to get. And but inside the first week, I used to be encountering monitor lizards, hawksbill turtles, even tomb bats – species we share throughout 8,000 kilometres of ocean. The ecosystems regarded nothing alike, however they have been asking the identical questions. These similarities have been genuinely shocking.
How did you need to adapt your management type on the trade?

Andrew Dixon: I led extra as a “visitor CEO” than a conventional CEO throughout my month-long trade. Quite than making choices, my position was to ask questions, workshop concepts and encourage groups to assume by way of challenges themselves which is usually how I strategy management in my very own enterprise.
My strategy at Cottars was to first sit down with every senior employees member, focus on their position and attempt to perceive the enterprise from their perspective. I used to be all the time cautious to border this as an trade the place we might study from one another, not as an audit or evaluation of them. I might sense that some have been slightly nervous to start with however I discover that some humour all the time lightens the dialogue and this as an Australian is in-built our DNA!
Since I wasn’t there to make modifications, my strategy was to supply solutions. This mirrors the strategy I exploit in my very own enterprise: I attempt to introduce an concept and let the crew take possession and run with it. In the event that they don’t just like the suggestion then you will have to seek out another method because the probabilities of it getting carried out efficiently is subsequent to zero in the event that they don’t like the thought.
Louise Cottar: A CEO trade forces you into a really explicit type of humility. Whenever you lead your personal organisation, you carry a long time of context. At Nikoi and Cempedak, I had none of that. I needed to turn into a listener first and a frontrunner second. My position shifted from directing to observing, from main from the entrance to affirming. I additionally needed to settle for that the best worth I might provide wasn’t all the time a brand new concept – generally it was merely readability: seeing what they’d constructed with recent eyes and having the ability validate and replicate it again to them.
Inform us what classes or operational requirements you introduced again to your personal enterprise following the trade?
Andrew Dixon: A number of sensible takeaways stand out:
● Succession readiness: Operating another person’s operation for a month is a real-world succession planning train. We’ve tightened our personal succession plans and clarified who steps up for key capabilities when management is absent.
● Threat administration: Seeing the complexity of a conservancy mannequin sharpened our considering round figuring out and managing operational and strategic dangers earlier than they turn into bigger points.
● Demand measurement: Certainly one of Louise’s observations was that we must always higher perceive the demand we’re turning away. We’re now putting higher give attention to measuring unmet demand and what that may inform us about future alternatives round pricing, seasonality and capability planning.
Louise Cottar: I used to be intrigued by the operational and cultural practices on the islands. The crew completed each morning ops assembly with a greeting to one another of ‘Blissful Working’. It was real and seeped by way of the entire crew and work tradition. I can not consider a extra highly effective lesson and normal than beginning the day on such a optimistic be aware. I’m trialing it again in Kenya and it’s definitely and it’s bringing extra smiles to our crew.
Did you discover any similarities within the crossover enterprise round management, folks and operational challenges?

Andrew Dixon: Many. Regardless of working in utterly totally different environments (tropical islands in Indonesia and the savannahs of Kenya), the underlying management challenges have been remarkably comparable.
● Each companies comply with The Lengthy Run’s 4Cs framework which places conservation, neighborhood, tradition and commerce on the coronary heart of our companies
● We’re each working in distant, off-grid environments the place energy administration, waste techniques, logistics and supply-chain resilience play a major position in day-to-day decision-making.
● Most significantly, each companies are basically folks companies. Creating sturdy, lengthy standing groups, making a shared sense of goal and empowering folks to make choices is on the coronary heart of hospitality, no matter geography.
One of many largest surprises was the variety of similarities throughout the 2 properties given they’re 8,000km aside and utterly totally different landscapes. The landscapes are very totally different, however the identical challenges and questions emerge, and the rules of fine management and accountable tourism are remarkably comparable.
Louise Cottar: Profoundly so. The employees tradition was maybe probably the most hanging parallel. Indonesians carry a pure sense of hospitality – a heat and delight of their work that I recognise immediately in Kenyans.
And in each instances, it goes past delight: there’s a starvation to study, to enhance, to be a part of one thing significant. That’s by no means unintentional; it’s fastidiously constructed and persistently nurtured by management over a few years. We additionally share the identical macro-pressures – threats far larger than our day-to-day operations, whether or not that’s over-tourism and cattle incursions within the Maasai Mara, or industrialisation creeping nearer to the marine protected space across the islands. The size differs; the problem of defending a spot from forces past your management doesn’t.
What are some insights to share with different CEOs contemplating embarking on their very own trade?
Andrew Dixon: 5 issues mattered most for us:
● Begin with clear objectives. Agree upfront what all sides needs to study, what stage of entry might be offered and what success appears to be like like.
● Construct belief and guardrails. Belief is every little thing. We shared financials, technique discussions and operational challenges as a result of we trusted each other. A easy NDA, clear boundaries and common check-ins create the framework that makes that potential.
● Lead with humility. You’re not there to show how a lot you recognize. You’re there to study. The extra curious and open you’re, the extra precious the expertise turns into.
● Take note of what isn’t being measured. Typically the most important alternatives sit within the blind spots – unmet demand, recurring bottlenecks or assumptions that no one has challenged for years.
● Plan for what occurs afterwards. The trade itself is barely half the worth. The true profit comes from debriefing groups, translating insights into actions and embedding these actions into enterprise plans and KPIs.
I’d additionally encourage CEOs to embrace the angle that comes from stepping away from their very own enterprise. Being faraway from the every day noise creates readability. It means that you can return with recent power, new concepts and a distinct view of your personal organisation.
At a private stage, what I’ll bear in mind most isn’t a course of or a report. It was sitting on a recreation drive within the Maasai Mara and being utterly blown away by the size of the wildlife and panorama. Experiences like that remind you why conservation-led tourism issues and why companies like ours exist within the first place.
Louise Cottar: An trade like this requires actual belief, and actual vulnerability. Go in with an open thoughts, and select your trade accomplice fastidiously: shared values matter way over an identical enterprise mannequin. Having a typical framework such because the Lengthy Run World Ecosphere Retreat normal or B-Corps helps.
And count on it to take longer to land than you assume. The teachings from a month in Indonesia are nonetheless settling for me now. The trade doesn’t finish if you board the airplane dwelling – in some ways, that’s when it actually begins. Andrew and I are already discussing the best way to prolong this to a crew stage, as a result of we each know that the actual worth compounds over time, and thru the individuals who make these companies what they’re.


